Who is the Most Hated Person in the History of the Animation Industry?

[Dee]

I'm guessing it's because he was alleged to be an anti-Semetic, I suppose.

Yeah, it's one of those things I don't think we'll ever know. Theres a lot of conspiracy in it.

 

[livingfruitvirus]

The most misguided thing about their argument is that without viewers, Seth WOULDN'T be worth millions. It's not like Seth -forced- America to watch Family Guy and American Dad with a Clockwork Orange-style chair.

BTW, which writers were former lawyers? Just curious.

That'd be a pretty funny visual.

I should've said lawyers or went to law school. For example, Chris Sheridan and Steve Callaghan went to Yale. It's not uncommon in primetime TV writing. The Simpsons had an episode which mocked the Itchy and Scratchy writers for being "Harvard grads."

 

[Frank]

By 1958, movie revenues were dwindling thanks to TV, so H&B wanted to get a head start in the new medium. But since TV has a smaller budget than features, H&B -had- to work with less money. Whether they liked it or not, it was a necessity to find ways to work in the restrictive new environment. And to be perfectly fair, H&B probably weren't the 'pioneers'. Limited animation can be seen as far back as Chuck Jones's' "The Dover Boys" (which was excellent).

They were never the pioneers of Limited Animation nor did they make the first TV cartoon. That honor would go to Crusader Rabbit which was produced by Jay Ward in 1949.

Some of the techniques for limited animation, were used before in theatrical cartoons; like held cels for parts of the character's body was used before. Vehicles being moved on a single cel or frame has also been done in theatrical cartoons before.

Terrytoons apparently pioneered some of the techniques used in TV animation but of course they haven't been aired on TV in about 20 years.

 

[Ed Liu]

I should've said lawyers or went to law school. For example, Chris Sheridan and Steve Callaghan went to Yale. It's not uncommon in primetime TV writing. The Simpsons had an episode which mocked the Itchy and Scratchy writers for being "Harvard grads."

The crack at Harvard grads is specifically because a lot of alumni friom the Harvard Lampoon go on to write for Saturday Night Live and other sitcoms. Conan O'Brien was a member, and there are a number of Simpsons writers and producers who were members as well. It's very much of an industry in-joke.

-- Ed

 

[J. B. Warner]

I always felt enforcing "rules" on animation was kinda silly.

Making rules for that makes about as much sense as making rules on how to make abstract art.

You can make rules for your own show or follow the rules of previous cartoonists, but I wouldn't cram my own principles down the throats of other animators who want to do something differently.

It's this line of thinking that's made me stop thinking of Seth MacFarlane as a no-talent hack, and actually caused me to recently think about finally going back and catching up on the post-renewal episodes of "Family Guy". I'll admit that what I saw of Season 4 wasn't what I expected, and it isn't how I'd write an animated sitcom, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't try to enjoy it for what it is.

And besides, I'm a cartoonist. If I don't like what I see, I can always satirize it.

 

[TMC1982]

Klasky-Csupo

http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=2901499&postcount=6

The studio did it to themselves. Pumping out several mediocre shows that all looked the same, while also treating their artists like crap and refusing to pay them overtime, and Gabor Csupo refusing to sign a union contract ever. For a studio that makes cartoons, they sure can't stand cartoonists.

 

[khuddle]

The Simpsons had an episode which mocked the Itchy and Scratchy writers for being "Harvard grads."

"Hey, egghead! Sing "Fair Harvard"!"

 

[Eldorado]

Has anyone mentioned Jon K. yet?

 

[Fone Bone]

Has anyone mentioned Jon K. yet?

No, because this thread was from 2008 and inexplicably bumped.

 

[Dr.Pepper]

Has anyone mentioned Jon K. yet?

Yes. He was mentioned on the first post.

 

[Fone Bone]

I stand corrected.

 

[JoeMabbon]

No, because this thread was from 2008 and inexplicably bumped.

What do you mean inexplicably? It was dredged up for an extremely relevant Simpsons reference.