"Quiet on Set: The Dark Side of Kids TV" Discussion Thread

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Alexa Nikolas just went live with some pretty damning claims about the Quiet on Set production, claiming that she was coerced and harassed into participating, only for them to cut out her entire interview and keep the "goo pop" bit. Strong language warning, though I recommend her entire channel for anyone who would like to dive deep into the circles of industry predatory behavior.

It makes me uncomfortable that Alexa Nikolas immediately reads out loud from the comments that the podcaster was talking about Jennette McCurdy, even though the podcaster did her best to not include Jennette's name. And then just after that Alexa gets a donation from a fan. This made me realize Alexa's YouTube channel is a rage channel.

I do wish Alexa Nikolas all the best. I hope the industry changes for good.

 

[Golden Geek]

It makes me uncomfortable that Alexa Nikolas immediately reads out loud from the comments that the podcaster was talking about Jennette McCurdy, even though the podcaster did her best to not include Jennette's name. And then just after that Alexa gets a donation from a fan. This made me realize Alexa's YouTube channel is a rage channel.

I wouldn't call it a "rage channel" in the same sense as the outrage bait channels that are all over YouTube, as she has legitimate reasons to be angry, yet at the same time is sure to have periods without that anger/create a calm and welcoming space to survivors.

 

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I've now watched all five parts, it was an interesting insight in the dark side of live-action kids television and Hollywood in general. The amount of manipulation and predatory behaviour is just a disgrace, it's a shame that this documentary was made now and not 10+ years ago. Nickelodeon gave people like Dan Schneider too much power, therefore things went unchecked or were just quickly glanced over by Nickelodeon execs.

 

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Dan Schneider Sues 'Quiet on Set' for Falsely Painting Him as Child Sex Abuser

Dan Schneider is taking producers of 'Quiet on Set' to court -- claiming they defamed him by falsely portraying him as a child sexual abuser at Nickelodeon, and ruining his reputation.

www.tmz.com

Dan Schneider is suiing defamation Quiet on Set..

 

[Majin_Megabyte]

That's a really bad move by Dan. Since California got one of the strongest Anti Slapp laws.

 

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Dan Schneider Sues 'Quiet on Set' for Falsely Painting Him as Child Sex Abuser

Dan Schneider is taking producers of 'Quiet on Set' to court -- claiming they defamed him by falsely portraying him as a child sexual abuser at Nickelodeon, and ruining his reputation.

www.tmz.com

Dan Schneider is suiing defamation Quiet on Set..

Pppffft! Good luck fighting with that, Danny boy…

 

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Dan Schneider Sues 'Quiet on Set' for Falsely Painting Him as Child Sex Abuser

Dan Schneider is taking producers of 'Quiet on Set' to court -- claiming they defamed him by falsely portraying him as a child sexual abuser at Nickelodeon, and ruining his reputation.

www.tmz.com

Dan Schneider is suiing defamation Quiet on Set..

Maybe I'm just missing something from how the episodes were edited, but I don't think that the editing was trying to imply that he's a child sex abuser. I've seen other people come to that conclusion from their takes on the docuseries, but that isn't the same thing as the producers actively trying to spread lies like that.

Defamation cases are typically pretty difficult since it is hard to prove that there was a deliberate attempt to ruin his reputation. Posting an apology video, as bad as it was, might be also used against him. He still recognized that some of what they said about him was true, which could easily make it harder to prove that there was defamation involved. Dan Schneider's reputation was already pretty bad before this docuseries started too. As far as I know, he hasn't gotten any work in the entertainment industry since he split ways with Nickelodeon, which could imply that his reputation was bad enough to where he couldn't get work. There have been claims and rumors about him for years, especially with other actors like Jennette McCurddy speaking out.

He sadly might be right that the docuseries was done to get some money and attention on Max. I still hope that it will lead to some good much needed changes in the industry, but given how they treated some of the actors, including some of the victims, I wouldn't be too surprised if that was their ultimate goal. Even if that was the case, I don't think it would have really ruined Dan Schenider's reputation, but rather made some of those rumors and accusations clearer for the general public to hear.

 

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Maybe I'm just missing something from how the episodes were edited, but I don't think that the editing was trying to imply that he's a child sex abuser. I've seen other people come to that conclusion from their takes on the docuseries, but that isn't the same thing as the producers actively trying to spread lies like that.

Defamation cases are typically pretty difficult since it is hard to prove that there was a deliberate attempt to ruin his reputation. Posting an apology video, as bad as it was, might be also used against him. He still recognized that some of what they said about him was true, which could easily make it harder to prove that there was defamation involved. Dan Schneider's reputation was already pretty bad before this docuseries started too. As far as I know, he hasn't gotten any work in the entertainment industry since he split ways with Nickelodeon, which could imply that his reputation was bad enough to where he couldn't get work. There have been claims and rumors about him for years, especially with other actors like Jennette McCurddy speaking out.

He sadly might be right that the docuseries was done to get some money and attention on Max. I still hope that it will lead to some good much needed changes in the industry, but given how they treated some of the actors, including some of the victims, I wouldn't be too surprised if that was their ultimate goal. Even if that was the case, I don't think it would have really ruined Dan Schenider's reputation, but rather made some of those rumors and accusations clearer for the general public to hear.

He has a sick sense of humor that's inappropriate for kids/teens content and was a bad boss but I agree, I didn't get the feel from the doc that he's in the same category as, say, Harvey Weinstein. Now some of his busted employees, OTOH...

 

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'All That' star Lori Beth Denberg says Nickelodeon's Dan Schneider showed her porn, initiated phone sex, and lashed out on set

Nickelodeon execs knew about Dan Schneider's "abuse and mistreatment" for years and failed to protect actors, Lori Beth Denberg says.

www.businessinsider.com

Lori Beth Denberg is finally speaking out against Dan Schneider.

 

[Pahiy]

And for those wanting to get around the paywall Business Insider has, I am sharing the article archived from archive.today to get around the paywall and a Variety article for those not wanting to use the former.

Also, this paragraph was buried in the Business Insider article backing the claim made by a former actor and writer of Dan's shows following the premiere of Quiet on Set about him owning a gun and has me wondering why Dan would take a gun to his mechanic and having Lori Beth hide it from a police officer?

Once, Denberg said, Schneider asked her to accompany him to visit his auto repairman. According to Denberg, Schneider had a gun on him. When a police officer pulled over Schneider because of an issue with his car's tags, Schneider pushed his gun to Denberg, she said. She hid the gun under her skirt as Schneider chatted with the officer, who recognized him from his role on the sitcom "Head of the Class." Schneider, she said, then asked the officer if he had any children who watched Nickelodeon and might recognize Denberg.

No further comment besides her describing Dan’s disgusting behavior towards her over 25 years ago, and it may be a pipe dream like several on the interwebs, with the hope there is at least a credible investigation for child abuse even though Lori Beth was already an adult by the time the events described took place. Lori Beth was one of my favorite All That cast members when I was a kid; I am proud of her for standing up for herself and risking her career trying to protect Amanda Bynes when she knew something wasn't quite right while she visiting Amanda at The Amanda Show.

 

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Dang.... I feel really bad for Lori Beth. At this point, I just think Dan is just a gross person.

 

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'All That' star Lori Beth Denberg says Nickelodeon's Dan Schneider showed her porn, initiated phone sex, and lashed out on set

Nickelodeon execs knew about Dan Schneider's "abuse and mistreatment" for years and failed to protect actors, Lori Beth Denberg says.

www.businessinsider.com

Lori Beth Denberg is finally speaking out against Dan Schneider.

God, that was so unfortunate. I feel bad for Lori Beth Denburg.

You know what really pisses me off? Lori Beth mention that she told Brian Robbins about the concerns for Amanda Bynes. Robbins knew Dan's behavior, yet he choose to do nothing about it.

Guess what happened to Robbins? Still at the top at Paramount Global.

Welcome to Hollywierd!

 

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Victoria Justice comments about Dan Schneider.

Nickelodeon Alum Victoria Justice Talks “Complex” Relationship With Dan Schneider: “I Felt Like I Was Treated Unfairly”

Nickelodeon and Victorious alum Victoria Justice is breaking her silence on Dan Schneider following the docu-series Quiet on Set: The Dark Side of Kids TV.

www.deadline.com

 

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Victoria Justice comments about Dan Schneider.

Nickelodeon Alum Victoria Justice Talks “Complex” Relationship With Dan Schneider: “I Felt Like I Was Treated Unfairly”

Nickelodeon and Victorious alum Victoria Justice is breaking her silence on Dan Schneider following the docu-series Quiet on Set: The Dark Side of Kids TV.

www.deadline.com

Interesting.

I can understand from Victoria's perspective. On one hand, she did not condone Dan's degenerate antics. On the other hand, he did give Victoria a lot of opportunities when she was working on Nick, and she became recognizable star ever since, so yeah.

 

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I liked Dan Schneider’s shows when I was a kid and thought they were funny at the time, but after seeing the documentary I further regret supporting them, though I already lost interest after Victorious and moved on to Regular Show as my go-to comedy, and I completely passed on Henry Danger and Game Shakers.

 

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Kel Mitchell Gets Candid On Experience With Dan Schneider: ‘I Could Put Hands On Him Or We Could Argue’

Kel Mitchell is revealing how his depression started after a run-in with Nickelodeon executive producer Dan Schneider, who has been the headlines lately due to the explosive documentary, Quiet on the Set: The Dark Side of Kids TV. Atlanta Black Star reports that Mitchell talked about this dark...

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Kel Mitchell finally speaking out against Dan Schneider.

 

[Majin_Megabyte]

Man... I feel really bad for Kel.

 

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Kel Mitchell Gets Candid On Experience With Dan Schneider: ‘I Could Put Hands On Him Or We Could Argue’

Kel Mitchell is revealing how his depression started after a run-in with Nickelodeon executive producer Dan Schneider, who has been the headlines lately due to the explosive documentary, Quiet on the Set: The Dark Side of Kids TV. Atlanta Black Star reports that Mitchell talked about this dark...

www.yahoo.com

Kel Mitchell finally speaking out against Dan Schneider.

Man, poor Kel Mitchell. My heart goes out to this guy because that's truly messed up.

 

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Man, I'm really sorry that Kel went through that. In a way, I'm somewhat surprised Schneider treated him like that given he was one of the biggest stars from that era of Nickelodeon, but he was still a toxic boss with a horrible work environment. Hopefully, Kel is doing better emotionally and mentally now.

I also didn't fully read the article about Lori Beth from earlier, but wow. That's extremely gross to put it lightly. It's claims like that that make it really hard for me to believe that Dan Schneider has any chance with his defamation lawsuit. I hope that she gets all of the support she needs too.

 

[KeldeoKitty]

As some of this thread mentioned TeenNick has scrubbed a lot of Dan Schneider content. I didn’t notice until I checked the schedule, and yeah for a while the TeenNick channel was virtually all Dan Schneider shows like iCarly and Henry Danger I remember they played Henry Danger all week after NickRewind got dropped.

Nick and Paramount must be embarrassed because Henry Danger’s presence has been drastically reduced and most of the TeenNick channel just runs a lot of SpongeBob, Fairly Odd Parents, and the Loud House so basically it’s now just the Nicktoons Channel 2.0, so weird.